Brume 2 having another Router

K3rn3l_Ku5h · 2023-01-09T16:04:32.204Z

Lets get some basic info here.

The Main router is what exactly? a 3 in one (Modem, router/switch, Wifi access point)?
How is the Internet Service Provider bring internet to the house?(physical cable, WiFi or cellular network)
What is running on the main router for Operating System?

nos · 2023-01-09T21:25:24.135Z

K3rn3l_Ku5h:

The Main router is what exactly? a 3 in one (Modem, router/switch, Wifi access point)?
How is the Internet Service Provider bring internet to the house?(physical cable, WiFi or cellular network)
What is running on the main router for Operating System?

I answer you:

1º) Yes, it’s a 3 in 1
2º) Physical Cable (Optic Fiber)
3º) A generic one from the company itself

wcs2228 · 2023-01-10T01:19:58.224Z

If you are prepared to sacrifice wifi, then add the Brume 2 behind your main router with its WAN port connected to a main router LAN port, To set up the Brume 2, follow the GL.iNet documentation in the link I provided. All your LAN devices are to be attached to the Brume 2 and none on the ISP, except for the Brume 2.

nos · 2023-01-10T10:39:33.081Z

By connecting it this way, I will be able to get 100% of the Brume 2 performance, right? I mean that I will be able to use all its features without any problems…

Thanks.

wcs2228 · 2023-01-11T02:32:03.831Z

Yes, you should because the main router is not really doing much. For VPN server, port forwarding has to be set up the main router has to send incoming traffic to the Brume 2.

In my network, I have a non-GL.iNet router behind the ISP cable modem/router and I am happy with the way the setup works. I did not even bother bridging the ISP device, so I get 2 layers of firewall.

nos · 2023-01-11T09:48:57.937Z

Another thing I have thought of is to use Brume 2 in front of my main router (I keep WiFi) and use Brume 2 as AdGuardHome only.

After I have it configured correctly, I can use a PortMaster + SPN instead of the Brume 2 VPN.

What do you think about this idea?

wcs2228 · 2023-01-12T03:22:06.574Z

Yes, you can put the Brume 2 in front of the main router, since your ISP connection is not over coaxial cable like mine. For your fiber Internet connection, you have to fiddle with the VLAN configuration to work with the ONT, according to your ISP.

After you get connected to the Internet, you can try redeploying the main router as a wifi access point, but it all depends on its capabilities.

I do not know Portmaster + SPN and whether it is available on OpenWRT.

nos · 2023-01-12T10:41:31.988Z

Yes, my Router is by Optical Fiber.

I have seen in that my main Router I can activate the ONT option, with which I could connect the Brume 2 as they indicate me, which is as follows:

- Connect the WAN port of the Brume 2 to the LAN port of the main Router.

I guess this would be the only way to connect the Brume 2, right? If so, would I still have WiFi?

Thanks.

wcs2228 · 2023-01-13T01:03:47.783Z

I thought you had a separate ONT and router, which is what some people have for fiber Internet.

If the ONT and router are in one main device, then you cannot add the Brume 2 in front of it. When you connect the WAN port to the LAN port of that device, the Brume 2 will be behind it.

nos · 2023-01-13T13:45:44.654Z

Yes, I have everything on the same Router. So…what is the performance I would get from the Brume 2 by connecting it that way?

wcs2228 · 2023-01-14T02:09:00.856Z

I have tested the Brume 2 and a non-GL.iNet router behind my ISP cable model/router and I get the full speed of my cable Internet connection, which is 700Mbps download.

You can check if your ISP device can be bridged, which should eliminate any noticeable speed degradation.

yuxin.zou · 2023-01-14T07:07:03.403Z

I think you need to use the Drop-in Gateway feature.
When this feature is working, your clients can connect to the Wi-Fi and network ports of the main route, but they will forward traffic through the VPN on Brume2.

Please note that Drop-in Gateway in version 4.1 tends to cause instability in internet telephony, video conferencing, and online gaming. If this affects you, please upgrade to version 4.2.
On 4.2 beta, this feature is a little more difficult to set up. You will need to turn off DHCP on your main route, please follow the guidance on UI.

nos · 2023-01-19T11:06:39.284Z

Connecting as you say (@yuxin.zou), I could use Brume 2 as VPN client + AdGuard Home, right?

In my case, and for my intended use, what is the difference between the Brume 2 and Flint? From what little I have read, both come with the same configuration options (VPN, AdGuard Home, Tor…), although the Flint comes with more LAN ports and has WiFi. The hardware of the Brume 2 is better too.

If I buy the Flint, I should also connect it in Drop-in Gateway mode? Obviously, I would like to use the Flint as VPN Server + AdGuard Home (and WiFi?). If I could use the Flint own WiFi it would surely be better than using my own router’s, I guess, right?

Thank you.

yuxin.zou · 2023-01-20T02:29:50.518Z

nos:

Connecting as you say (@yuxin.zou), I could use Brume 2 as VPN client + AdGuard Home, right?

Yes, and it can be overridden to all client devices connected to your main router.

nos:

In my case, and for my intended use, what is the difference between the Brume 2 and Flint?

nos:

If I buy the Flint, I should also connect it in Drop-in Gateway mode? Obviously, I would like to use the Flint as VPN Server + AdGuard Home (and WiFi?). If I could use the Flint own WiFi it would surely be better than using my own router’s, I guess, right?

I think Brume2 is better suited to adding VPN and other features to your home network without replacing your main router. It has 8GB of storage space so you can also install more third party plugins. Flint, on the other hand, is better suited as your main router and it doesn’t require Drop-in Gateway mode.

Which one is better depends on your actual needs. There is no difference in VPN and AdGuard Home functionality between the two methods.
Brume2 as a Drop-in Gateway will increase latency slightly and is not recommended for gamers.
Flint does not currently have Mesh (seamless roaming) and is not specifically adapted for IPTV. if you don’t need them, you may consider using it as your main router.

nos · 2023-01-20T21:46:36.764Z

Then yes, for me the most accurate product is the Brume 2. Now it only remains to buy it.

Off-Topic: Regarding fees/tariffs for Europe, do you know if DHL Express charges anything @yuxin.zou?

Thanks.

yuxin.zou · 2023-01-21T02:14:37.958Z

Sorry, I don’t know.
@simonli @panpan maybe know it.

alzhao · 2023-01-21T10:25:56.695Z

nos:

Off-Topic: Regarding fees/tariffs for Europe, do you know if DHL Express charges anything @yuxin.zou?

If the product ship from out side of Europe, DHL will charge your import VAT when deliver.

If you buy from Amazon EU, or Aliexpress, there is not VAT.

nos · 2023-01-22T12:21:13.499Z

alzhao:

If the product ship from out side of Europe, DHL will charge your import VAT when deliver.

If you buy from Amazon EU, or Aliexpress, there is not VAT.

What if I buy it directly from the store here (Official Store)?

alzhao · 2023-01-23T11:35:15.502Z

nos:

What if I buy it directly from the store here (Official Store)?

You may asked be pay VAT by the logistics.

Tom_GL-inet · 2024-01-19T23:46:22.796Z

wcs2228:

router as a wifi access point,

Wouldn’t be then router be gateway as a WiFi & the Brume 2 as the access point?