Thank you for the link on your guide on how to use the CH341A programmer, I hope it will be of use for others too . I had the SOP8 clip on the way to me to avoid the soldering part but still I had no clue about the CH341A software and also I had all the other tools to go down the linux route so for the impatient in me it was just natural to jump if I had an option . Anyway got the CH341A on order now also to enrich my toolkit .