Thanks very much for your help, contacted surfshark and they think they would have wireguard by the end of next month. I will look into the 2 vpn services you mentioned. also a quick one not sure if this is also normal, when i connected my mt300n router to my virgin hub3 box, the speed i get from it without vpn seems to drop at least 30% so i am getting about 70Mbps instead of 108