How to bypass WiFI Access point scanning of "windows location services"?

questlover · 2022-09-09T06:24:28.515Z

Hi @eric / others,

Do you believe it makes more sense to use iPad (without cellular communication) with Wi-Fi off?

What are your comments on this idea?

eric · 2022-09-09T14:33:44.632Z

If you are using the iPad to connect to work, be it your VM or anything to do with your work MS Team account or any MS work account, then I would not want the iPad to connect via WiFi.

The best rule is to keep your work systems fully isolated from WiFi, Bluetooth and cellular. The less systems that you use to access any of your work accounts, the easier it will be to secure these systems, and you will be less likely to leak your location data.

questlover · 2022-09-10T13:51:34.651Z

Makes Sense. What solution do you use for phone calls?
We need to use “enter phone number and connect thu that” option of zoom and teams to be able to take calls.

per https://www.reddit.com/r/digitalnomad/wiki/vpn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf, roaming status of phones can be gauged.

Do you use a VOIP Phone? What do you do?

eric · 2022-09-10T18:47:50.951Z

I am using Google FI, using their Web interface on my PC over a VPN connection to the US. It gives me voice and text with a US number.

vpntravel · 2024-01-10T13:43:37.465Z

I have a windows laptop provided by work. I’m not an administrator on the machine. Location services is turned ON. I can’t turn it off, but I can turn off Wi-Fi & Bluetooth radios. Can the laptop location services still use Wi-Fi & Bluetooth to determine location even when radios are off.

admon · 2024-01-10T14:02:44.388Z

vpntravel:

I have a windows laptop provided by work. I’m not an administrator on the machine.

Don‘t try to fool your company.
They will know.

slesar · 2024-01-10T15:50:57.848Z

Did you signed term for work laptop? Don’t be fool. Buy your own device.

eric · 2024-01-10T15:53:37.212Z

You reduce the risk considerably by turning off Bluetooth and WIFI, but depending on what applications your management loaded on your PC, it is not fool proof, unless your Bluetooth and WIFI have a physical switch, which is not common anymore.

Remember that whatever you turn off by software can be turned on by software. This is why there is a sticky note over my camera

vpntravel · 2024-01-10T16:34:32.433Z

It’s okay. I have high demand skills and can take the risk. They already got me once. I think they may have got me from work phone. I kept cell radio running for few mins. Even though I had updated all the privacy settings to disable location (including Find my IPhone). It still updated the timezone for few seconds I turned on cellular radio. Damn Apple.

Now I’m gonna use Ethernet to lightning adapter and forward calls.

admon · 2024-01-10T16:35:59.766Z

Might be some US stuff that I don’t understand.
Wish you all the best.

vpntravel · 2024-01-11T00:36:01.209Z

I have already been caught. I have high demand skills and can afford to take risks.

What I’m gonna do now is:

disable all location on work phone
disable Bluetooth, wifi, cellular radios on phone
connect phone to GL router via Ethernet adapter
disable wifi and Bluetooth on work laptop
connect work laptop to GL router via ethernet

If they catch again, they can fire me. For VPN, i have WG server and backup OpenVPN server.

admon · 2024-01-11T05:20:44.482Z

They will catch you again since you don’t have admin permissions on your device.

They will detect your VPN usage and they will detect the usage of your VPN router.

So basically you should talk to them.

vpntravel · 2024-01-11T07:25:53.252Z

How will they detect vpn usage and vpn router?

admon · 2024-01-11T07:33:03.210Z

On their side. It’s easy since you can detect IP addresses and do lookups. And they can check directly on your PC if there is something odd.

So it’s definitely detectable.

questlover · 2024-01-31T17:46:55.379Z

admon:

Don‘t try to fool your company.
They will know.

I and lot many others are doing this, and company never knew. Not sure what you are saying.

questlover · 2024-01-31T17:47:54.670Z

Hi feel free to ping if you still have questions. or DM also okay.

admon · 2024-01-31T17:49:38.814Z

questlover:

Not sure what you are saying.

Then your company does not care about it. If they cared - in a serious way - they would know.
Trust me, I am in one company and responsible for something like that.

questlover · 2024-01-31T17:55:35.048Z

admon:

in a serious way

Okay. I believe for most companies, this situation would come only mostly when an employee is “under review” or something. BUT, in vast majority of the companies for vast majority of the cases, this does not exist as a “general policy”.

GrannySmasher · 2024-01-31T20:31:56.437Z

Are you a spooky spy Mr Seal?

admon · 2024-01-31T20:36:00.475Z

A spy maybe, but not spooky!