Router and antenna suggestions

BobbySmithy · 2021-04-28T06:40:19.985Z

Hi guys,

I’m looking for a relatively cheap way to connect to the free public wifi and then create a new private network for my apartment.

The signal is very very weak so I thought I could get the Shadow AR300M-Ext and put a larger(?) external antenna to be able to get a stronger signal.

A dual band router might work better to increase bandwidth?
And a directional antenna is better for my situation?

Any recommendations?
Thanks

alzhao · 2021-04-28T07:07:01.258Z

BobbySmithy:

A dual band router might work better to increase bandwidth?
And a directional antenna is better for my situation?

Yes for both. Dual-band router works definately better.

eric · 2021-04-28T13:56:15.827Z

I do not find much of an advantage between my AR300M16-Ext and my AR300M, as the little antennas just don’t seem to help much. Trying a different long range antenna on the AR300M16-Ext did not help me. Being small, I find placement much more important then the external antennas. When I travel, I use a WIFI app on my phone to find the strongest signal in the room I’m staying in, and that is where I put my router.

If you want to go through some work, I would recommend the external Panda Long Range PAU08 USB WIFI adapter, as it gives about a 20db improvement over the internal radio in the AR300M16-ext, at a cost of less the $15.00. At my house I go from seeing about 8 APs with the AR300M16-ext to over 20 with the Panda USB adapter. The problem is the only way I was able to make this work is by replacing the GL iNet firmware with the plain OpenWRT firmware.

BobbySmithy · 2021-04-29T03:26:12.774Z

Thanks Eric that’s very helpful.

So you used OpenWRT to be able to use the Pandas USB antenna as opposed to the standard RP-SMA antennas, is USB better or that’s just what you had around?

Would be possible to do that on another router like the MT300N Mango?

Thanks

eric · 2021-04-29T05:01:54.608Z

For one of my applications, I needed a long range WIFI connection. I planned on using the AR300M16-Ext, but it was not very good at picking up weak WIFI signals. For another application on my PC, I had already purchased the Panda PAU08, so I tried it on the AR300M16-Ext, and it was much better and had no problems reaching multiple distant WIFI APs, BUT the GL iNet software kept over-writing my manual LUCI configuration, so I gave up, and just went with the generic 19.07 OpenWrt software for this application. The Panda is not just an antenna but is a full WIFI radio, so you end up with two radios, one that is connecting to the remote AP, and one that is used to access the local systems, which runs faster as you are not sharing a single radio for receiving and re-transmitting.

I would not use a Mango if you ever want to use generic OpenWrt firmware, as it uses a proprietary WIFI driver supplied by GL iNet, but not available in the generic OpenWrt firmware.

elorimer · 2021-04-29T11:30:23.346Z

I did a little fooling around in another context with high gain external antennas and learned two things:

the cable to the antenna from the radio needs to be very large or very short (like, a matter of inches. The attenuation of the signal was very high.
If you use a usb dongle, on the other hand, the cable can be longer because you are bringing the radio to the antenna.

Whether with a cantenna or a 3 foot long high db Tv-type antenna, I wasn’t doing much better than an internal laptop did.