Slate AX GL-AXT1800 - Initial Feedback of Router and Power Supply

NomadTony · 2022-06-26T01:58:23.870Z

I’m just a user, I don’t work for GL-iNet.

But hopefully they do get it touch with you soon

240038901 · 2022-06-27T14:24:44.625Z

The small fans shall be started manually by order through SSH in the official operating system. Now
The linux version can be upgraded to version 5.4.169 and you can build the operating system by yourself, the code is openned for all to use.

i7bar · 2022-06-28T00:28:29.071Z

Toomellow024:

Any updates on the Beryl compare is on would be greatly appreciated!! As well as any updated on crashing and bugs now that a few days have past

So far, everything works pretty well, I stopped extensively testing it and now the router runs in ‘every day work mode’ meaning there are 2-4 wireless and 1 wired client connected, none of them consumes a lot of bandwidth, just typical usage. I checked the log, the router did not restart for several days. The router runs switches periodically from/to repeater / wired mode, AdGuard uses 10 host files, the screenshot is attached.

adblock1559×1069 108 KB

This feature is the one I waited/wanted for the most.

I installed several additional packages such as the frond end for MWAN3 and made some changes in the config (which probably means that I slightly changed the original GL config).
I tried to tether a smartphone, it worked to some extended, meaning it started working fine and stop a bit later. To achieve that I had to modify TTL and hope limit counter for all interfaces.
But there is something that bothers me - when I capture the packets leaving the WAN, I see different TTL and this is very strange (although it has been reported by another user once).
The packets with incorrect TTL coming from MWAN3 which uses ping for check the state of specific interfaces. And the custom setting of TTL for POSTROUTING does not affect the TTL of the packets sent by MWAN3.
This is something I want to look into later, I also use GL-AR750S-Ext / Slate, running OpenWrt 18.06 with MWAN3 (and such) and in that case TTL is set correctly, the tethering works without any glitches.

This is probably all what I can say about AXT1800 right now.

I am not sure how I would compare Beryl with AXT1800. I would say that Beryl has a bit stronger signal than GL-AR750S, more memory, faster WiFi and a bit faster CPU. The best thing about Beryl is that it runs well OpenWrt while AXT1800 cannot (and this is important for me). The best thing about AXT180 that it has even more memory, faster CPU, faster WiFi and it can run AdGuard (and this is important for me). That is why I have both. But for you it is probably better just wait for a little longer before you can decide which router to get.

Plus, it would be useful to know what are your priorities in this regard:
a) run original OpenWrt;
b) run DNS filtering (AdGuard);
c) and so on.

i7bar · 2022-06-28T00:30:39.566Z

240038901:

The small fans shall be started manually by order through SSH in the official operating system.

Can you provide any additional information? Started with what command?
thanks.

i7bar · 2022-06-28T01:33:49.056Z

Some results of speed test. It would be better to use a dedicated iperf server to test the speed but this time I used att speed test and fast.com. The router was connected (WAN) to pfsense , pfsense is connected to fiber / 1Gb line, the client (WIN10) was connected using LAN port of the router. All 3 devices run MWAN3 and some other services:

-------- ATT SPEED TEST ---------
GL-750
gl750

Beryl

beryl

AXT1800

atx1800

------- fast.com ----
GL-750

gl_750_11157×610 96.2 KB

Beryl

beryl_11026×619 106 KB

AXT1800

atx1800_1936×605 104 KB

elorimer · 2022-06-28T06:14:29.699Z

This is off topic, but adblock on the Beryl is not enough for you?

240038901 · 2022-06-28T07:30:32.266Z

echo 255 > /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device0/cur_state

“255” can be changed from 36 to 255, which control the speed of fans. the max speed is 6000r/min.

i7bar · 2022-06-28T17:11:04.433Z

Yes, unfortunately most of it is offtopic and I think I have to apologize for derailing this thread, it was not my intention.

You can check this thread:
https://forum.gl-inet.com/t/does-gl-mt1300-beryl-support-adguard-home-and-gl-product-questions/14360/12

I was not satisfied with its performance while technically you can install it (may be I am a bit spoiled by pfsense running on mini PC (8GB RAM/ 128GB SSD), it has a similar plugin called pfBlockerNG).

i7bar · 2022-06-28T17:12:16.318Z

240038901:

“255” can be changed from 36 to 255, which control the speed of fans. the max speed is 6000r/min.

This is very interesting, thank you for the info!
PS: (6000 RPM looks a bit too fast, but never say never )

elorimer · 2022-06-28T17:27:21.595Z

Not sure what adguard does that adblock doesn’t, but adblock works fine on my Mango and Beryl and, um, blocks the ads.

i7bar · 2022-06-28T19:06:36.224Z

I am also not sure, I have not used adblock. I have no doubts it would block the stuff, the question is how many entries can the block list include and how much it will tax the CPU (which in turn should affect the overall performance of the router).

elorimer · 2022-06-29T06:43:24.767Z

I’m using the Stephen Black list, so about 66,000 sites. I’m using less than half the RAM and not noticing any ill effects. On my home router (also dual core and 256mb) I’m blocking about 200,000 sites without an issue, so I think it would be the same. Anyway, I think wireguard and wireless would be reasons to move up, but not necessarily ad blocking.

i7bar · 2022-06-29T20:19:27.263Z

elorimer:

I’m using the Stephen Black list, so about 66,000 sites.

You can see the names of DNS blocklists and the numbers of the rules in each of them I use in AXT1800 on a screenshot shown in one of my previous posts.

elorimer · 2022-06-30T05:38:08.638Z

Yes, over 200,000. Many of those are going to be duplicatea

Johnex · 2022-06-30T10:13:29.610Z

I use the OSID list: https://abp.oisd.nl

It gives 402294 rules, without duplicates. I prefer one large list than many small ones, because as @elorimer said, you will have a lot of overlap unless they are designed to work together with other lists.

i7bar · 2022-06-30T16:06:37.133Z

Johnex:

I use the OSID list: https://abp.oisd.nl

Thanks for the link, I see this is the list from Adblock Plus. Honestly speaking, I am mostly interested in blocking Windows stuff, AdGuard uses nextdns server as the upstream DNS server which does all DNS filtering heavy lifting.

Johnex:

you will have a lot of overlap unless they are designed to work together with other lists.

Most likely, but it should not affect the performance (while the RAM consumption - yes).

I will try adblock on Beryl a bit later, right now I am flashing it with ROOTer (MT1300 is fully supported and that is the great news) which is much more suited for work with LTE modems (which I am pretty interested in).

Johnex · 2022-06-30T23:47:21.094Z

It will affect both ram and performance. It still has to scan the filters, so if you have 10k filters duplicated over 4 lists, that is 40k filters it will process, instead of 10k if it was a consolidated list. In that example 4 times slower.

I don’t like 3rd party services, its another service i need to trust with my data. Nextdns has to process all your requests, they basically see everything you do on the net.

i7bar · 2022-07-01T04:02:33.958Z

Johnex:

It will affect both ram and performance. It still has to scan the filters, so if you have 10k filters duplicated over 4 lists, that is 40k filters it will process, instead of 10k if it was a consolidated list. In that example 4 times slower.

I seriously doubt. As soon as you found the entry in the first list there is no need to continue searching for this particular name since you already know that it has to blocked.
In addition to that If I would be a programmer who has to design a DNS filter I would join all lists into the one in the RAM (got rid of duplicates at this step), build a hash table and use some sort of quick binary search over the whole list.

Johnex:

I don’t like 3rd party services, its another service i need to trust with my data. Nextdns has to process all your requests, they basically see everything you do on the net.

True. It also true that ANY DNS server which receives your requests naturally sees them.
Yes, security comes with some cost. For example, you can point to nexdns your cell phone (if it allows private DNS, Samsung S10 allows) and all dns requests will be examined by nexdns.
If one looks at how much telemetry is sent/received by Android he could be really surprised, since in my view, OSs for mobile devices is the least audited/ user controlled kind of OSs.

nPulse · 2022-07-01T09:55:35.389Z

I’ve found the perfect charger for the Slate…

A lot smaller and for my needs (no USB hdds and stuff) it’s perfect.

It’s from Microsoft from an older lumia phone.

Microsoft Mobile
AC-100E

3.0A more than sufficient imho

elorimer · 2022-07-01T10:02:59.515Z

Same thing from Nokia, half the cost.