Hi,
is there any enterprise-level AP with PoE and 802.11ax in the pipeline? Basically a refresh of GL-AP1300? Would be great to see a Mediatek based enterprise AP from GL.inet with SFP connectors.
Sinovoip will be shipping a board using Filogic 830 soon: BananaPi R3.
Kind regards
Is PoE must?
Product are upgrading but difficult to integrate everything in one box.
Hi @alzhao,
glad to hear. Yes, for my use case, PoE is a must. It’s quite common for enterprise APs to support PoE.
Also, GL-AP1300 (Cirrus) seems to still have only limited stock 
Yes enterprise APs generally need PoE.
I have one question, the Enterprise APs from Ubiquiti has been cheap enough and they provide very conprehensive cloud management. What is our chance in this area?
The flagship APs like U6-LR from Ubiquity are a bluff package, since they are only equipped with an 1 Gbit/s port.
Currently, there is no product on the market for use cases, where mainline OpenWRT support is necessary. For instance, the Freifunk community in Germany builds mesh networks over whole cities using a firmware built on top of OpenWRT.
Also, there is the self-sovereign and open source cloud management system OpenWisp for APs running OpenWRT.
There is currently a market gap of Wi-Fi manufacturers providing enterprise level APs with mainline OpenWRT support for this kind of installations.
To give you some numbers: In Germany, there are >10,000 APs operated by Freifunk [source].
I’m sure both of these projects would be happy being able to finally have a manufacturer that builds for their needs.
What do you think about it, @alzhao ?
So summary, this is all what you need
I will let product managers have a check.
Yes, exactly.
My favourable solution would be some Mediatek based solution like the Filogic 830 since Mediatek provides Linux kernel drivers by themselves.
I think since Sinovoip soon starts to shipping their development board based on Filogic 830, the efforts are maybe not too high (at least from the software perspective) for your engineers.
Hi，We have plans to use the Filogic 820 to develop new 4G LTE Router products,It is possible to be based on the casing of the AP1300.I would like to know your specs you expect？Want to confirm that removing the 4G module will meet your expectations?
1)What is the wifi speed and coverage?
2)How many ether ports?Is one 2.5G ethernet port ok?
Hi Dipin,
Great to hear. Are you speaking on behalf of GL.iNet?
Yes, 4G or other WAN is not necessary for our use case.
Regarding Wi-Fi: Basically an upgraded version of AP-1300 from AC to AX
Use cases:
Nice-to-have:
Yes,I’m the product manager of GL.iNet.We are a Filogic 820 instead of a Filogic 830, and these two chips will be different.The general Filogic 820 platform refers to the MT7981,while Filogic 830 is the MT7986.
Cool! Nice to meet you.
I just checked and the differences between Filogic 830 and 820. Seems that 820 has two (compared to four) Cortex-A53. But since Wi-Fi APs usually have low to zero CPU load, this seems to be a perfectly fine choice.
But it’s great to hear that you’re already have plans! I’m really curious to get some news.
I also added other points to the requirements above:
you too.yes, Filogic 820 is a 1.35GHz Dual-core Processor &Cortex-A53.
Hi @Dipin,
I have another “nice-to-have” idea: Outdoor mounting
Would the new Access Point support this? For instance, the “Ubiquiti UniFi AP-AC Pro” is listed as outdoor mountable. I don’t think it’s water proof, but it would be nice if your product could resist to some spill water and no insects can get into it, …
What do you think about it?
Hi,
another suggestion for the planed MT7981 LTE AP.
It would be great to have tri-band Wifi 6E Support, so simultaneously 2.4GHz, 5GHz and 6GHz. So maybe something like MT7981 + MT7916, as far as I can see.
Also it would be nice to keep the possibility to add an bluetooth (or zigbee?) module to the board from the GL-AP1300. Having some (additional) GPIO/UART or USB available would also open up the option to add remote SIM support.
What do you think about this @Dipin?
Thank you for your suggestion. Very valuable suggestions.
Due to the limitation of internal R&D resources and the development direction of the company, we will concentrate on developing a CPE（LET/5G+WIFI6） based on MT7981+MT7976 .This new LTE/5G CPE reserves IOT modules. Meet some users who need IOT functionality.
I know this is an old post, but I think this is exactly the right question to ask. I’ve got minor complaints with my Ubiquiti gear, but it would be very challenging to compete with them on price ($100, $150 per AP), and their software management stack is both good (for APs) and free.
IF Ubiquiti started charging for their controller at some point (didn’t let you self host), then I think there would be a legitimate business market there. But until then I think it’s a very tough market to enter.
Thanks for your reply.
The option to add an IoT-Module is great. Is there any specs or pinout available for them? Building an remote sim module for this would be really interesting.
The decision for MT7981+MT7976 sounds reasonable and with an m.2 or mPCIe-slot there is might still the possibility to add a 6GHz wifi card instant of a lte card - so we still can get an triple band AP in the end ;-). Is it planed to connect PCIe-lanes to this socket or only USB?
Maybe it could also an idea to offer the AP with a installed MT7916 card?
Looking really interested forward to this new device 
The addition of IOT modules is onboard. - Specs will be released in Q1 2023.
MT7981 has only one PCie, which has been used to connect to 5G, and there is no spare PCie to connect to 6GHz chip. it is impossible to support triple band ,Of course, we have also paid attention to the user needs of 6G. In this case, WIFI7 is more appropriate?
Thanks again for your advice.
The 5G-Modem is a m2-card, right? My idea was to install an m2-wifi card instead of an 5g-modem.
Happily looking forward for the release and to see what’s possible with the device
@Dipin Hello, is there any plan to market the Filogic 830 product? I am from China and my requirements are: two 2.5G ETH，Built-in pcb antenna.Built-in Antenna Products ：TP-LINK XDR6050易展版拆机-路由器交流
Very simple and portable appearance Design products：Access Point U6 Mesh 防水型無線基地台 – UI Taiwan Official Store ，Combining these two products and supporting openwrt, dual 2.5G Eth and nano sim, this seems like a great product!