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Technical Support for Routers
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Cloudflare is well known privacy abuser. Why does GL-inet promote it and default implement it in firmware?

edit: why did you flag this post?

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Because there is demand for it?

You can’t replace something with nothing. If you don’t like Cloudflare, then you should come with an alternative that gives same value that people get from Cloudflare

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“value that people get from Cloudflare”
What do you mean? Could you elaborate?

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You can’t replace something with nothing.

Oh yeah? Do you know how many public DoH servers are out there? Why do you promote Cloudflare DoH?

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GL-iNet’s hardware is not good for privacy seekers anyway. Their hardware has phoning-home problem. Blocking *.gl-inet.com will cripple some functionality. It was silently fixed in recent firmware after reported by user.

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Interesting… Chinese is supporting censorship? :wink:

Seems GL.iNet is having partnership with Cloudflare.

store.gl-inet.com

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We don’t have partership with cloudflare. We just have the TLS support in the firmware.

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https://static.gl-inet.com/docs/en/3/app/nextdns/ndselect.jpg

Your firmware is including Cloudflare by default.

Are you a staff or just some guest? Because your site is clearly showing some kind of partnership here:

/products/gl-ar150/#specs

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What is this advertisement?

ENCRYPTED DNS WITH CLOUDFLARE
Cloudflare DNS over TLS
DNS over TLS is a security protocol for encrypting and wrapping Domain Name System (DNS) queries and answers via the Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol. It serves to increase user privacy and security by preventing eavesdropping and manipulation of DNS data via man-in-the-middle attacks.

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Cloudflare’s DNS outperforms other public DNS in almost every part of the world.
Instead, their DNS requires optimizing the communication path based on user tracking information and does not offer an option to avoid privacy breaches.

However, if you look at other routers on the market, most of them make vulnerable DNS requests according to the privacy policy that is not much different from 1.1.1.1.
It’s great that GL-iNet offers a “slower and more secure” DNS server option than its competitors, but should include options for users seeking “privacy breaches, and fastest”.

other things:

  • Some GL-iNet products support AdGuard Home. And all the products that AdGuard sells include Cloudflare in their custom DNS presets.
    • They do not claim that Cloudflare is safe, but show the scope of their privacy policy so that everyone can choose with an understanding of the dangers. It looks like a fair approach
  • Cloudflare optimizes the communication based on the location information of the edge network even if the EDNS subnet is hidden. (for faster request, or probably for evil purposes…) To that end, they at least share information about each other’s network edges with Google.
    • If you don’t trust them, you should avoid Cloudflare and Google’s edge network. It’s bloody hard for me…

edit: why did you flag this post?

If only one person has flagged it, it’s because of me who saw the new topic and misunderstood that it was just a post that was overly criticizing the company. sorry.
Apparently I’m not good at reading nuances from short sentences…

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