First impressions about 4.11 firmware on Flint2 (focused on mesh experience)

Here are some impressions after installing version 4.11.1 beta (directly from 4.9.1 without a reset—essentially the worst-case scenario) and adding a second Flint2 in a mesh configuration, bought specifically for the occasion, running the same 4.11.1 firmware, but this time with a factory reset.

These impressions mainly concern the mesh system, as I haven't really touched the rest (no VLANs, and just a few tests with the new network quality monitoring system, which I'm currently keeping disabled). To be clear, this is a Wi-Fi mesh setup, and I'm comparing it to the Fritz 7530 + 2400 system I was using previously for Wi-Fi alongside the single Flint2 to ensure mesh coverage, especially at the edges of the house (a clunky solution, but ultimately the most functional among those I tried).

  • Creating the mesh network is very, very simple. You set the mesh node to listen mode from the mesh menu, start the search on the main router, and in a relatively short time, it detects the node and syncs the settings. From that moment on, most settings on the node disappear.

  • Network stability and recovery speed after powering off the node seemed good. I'd say that over about 16 hours, I haven't noticed any drops, and browsing seems smooth. With the various "pre-mesh" modes I had tried, it was quite a disaster (I'm referring to repeater and WDS modes, not AP, on various repeater devices—specifically a Marble that I returned and a TP-Link running OpenWrt that I have at home and normally use for other things).

  • Speed is good, though perhaps I expected a bit more. The node connects to the router at around 1,600 Mbps (compared to roughly 800 Mbps on the Fritz mesh, which was about 1 meter closer to its master), while the actual speed via Speedtest tops out around 350 Mbps (tested with my Samsung A56; I might try again with my wife's S25 FE, which has faster Wi-Fi), compared to about 120 Mbps on the Fritz from a similar position. I was hoping to reach around 500 Mbps, but 350 Mbps is already more than enough.

  • Mesh network quality in terms of Fast Roaming and similar features: Moving around the house with my phone, I noticed zero issues. When I reach areas where the main router had really low coverage, the phone is already connected to the mesh node—something that happened with the Fritz system, but was quite problematic before without mesh (WDS, repeater mode, etc.). From this perspective, my house is a bit tricky. It's around 120–130 sq meters (commercial space), and a single Flint2 in its forced position (non-central) covers ALMOST everything. Without Fast Roaming or "mesh" protocols, devices desperately tend to stick to the main node, and the house isn't big enough to "force" a node switch due to a complete loss of signal.

    I'm noticing a certain tendency among stationary devices (in-wall Shellys, Google Home, Tuya lights, etc.) to remain connected to the main node (which was the first one I turned on) compared to what the Fritz system used to do. Right now, after about 16 hours of continuous runtime, I have around ten devices on the mesh node and the rest on the main router. Some switched to the mesh node only after a reboot, while a few stayed on the main router even after rebooting, despite the mesh node definitely being closer and having a stronger signal. One device is even located beyond the mesh node (Router ------ Mesh -- Device), yet it desperately stays connected to the router. I know this is normal in mesh networks and I'm not worried about it, but I thought I'd note it down. After a while (even a few days), Fritz would usually end up with about 20 devices on the mesh node, so let's see how things shift over time.

A few things I DON'T like or that need improvement:

  • Once mesh is enabled on the node, virtually all options disappear. I hadn't linked it to GoodCloud before putting it into mesh mode, and now I simply DON'T have the option to do so. From what I've seen, I would need to unbind it from the mesh, set up the connection to GoodCloud, and rebuild the network. That would work, but I'd never be able to disable it afterward. Not ideal—the option should be preserved. And judging by how it looks, that's not the only option disappearing that might come in handy.

  • Let me manage the mesh node's IP! In practice, when you add it, it forcibly grabs a random DHCP address and sticks with it, but I can't assign a static IP on the node or set up a reservation on the master router. As a result, my mesh node now sits on a .121 address that makes no sense, while the rest of my network is divided into logical blocks, and network devices (managed switches, old Fritz devices, etc.) live on low addresses (from .2 to .19). I have no way to reassign this one. At least let me set a standard DHCP reservation if I really have to use DHCP!

  • Information regarding the mesh node is quite sparse. Displaying at least the connection speed between the two devices in the mesh menu should be the bare minimum. Fritz has a graphical topology view of the network (Master – Mesh Nodes – End Devices and where they are connected) that tells you the link speed and connection layout at a glance, which would be nice to see replicated. In the client menu, you can see which node each device is connected to and theoretically the speed (though I have HW acceleration enabled, so that data isn't accurate, but it's a different metric than link speed anyway). However, to check the link speed between the Master and nodes, I have to open LuCI!

  • At the moment, the bandwidth doesn't seem to run at 160 MHz on the node (whereas it does on the master). On the master, I have 160 MHz properly configured, whereas in the 5 GHz network settings for the mesh node, it displays 80 MHz (greyed out, so read-only)—though I'm not sure if it's just a UI bug. The phone I used for testing doesn't support 160 MHz, so I'll need to test one with support (my wife's S25 FE again) as soon as I have time.

Overall, I'm satisfied for now, and I think I'll sell the remaining Fritz gear!

I have the same issue with the node not running at 160MHz. I have MT6000 as the main router and MT3000 as a node through ethernet backhaul. On MT3000 I cannot make changes at all for 5GHz network, but I can change some things for 2.4GHz, like bandwidth.

I try with a S25FE that support 160 Mhz and I confirm the issue. Router run at 160 Mhz but node works only at 80, and I can't change the setting on the GUI.

Another little bug: using Wifi Analyzer on Android Phone I can see the vendor name (GLinet ecc ecc) in master’s wifi but the information is missing on node’s wifi …

I am trying to set up a mesh with 2 Flint 4 and further small travel routers (Beryl AX, Opal, Slate AX, …).
One Flint 4 is the main router and I set up the Bery AX (both on 4.11) as mesh node. When changing the Bery AX to a normal router mode, it lost many settings (wifi names etc.). That’s also something to be fixed.

Hi,

Thank you for sharing your detailed feedback and testing experience with the Mesh feature.

Currently, the Mesh node operates at 80 MHz on the 5 GHz band. This configuration prioritizes connection stability. Using 160 MHz generally involves DFS channels, and radar detection may trigger channel changes that could interrupt the wireless Mesh backhaul.

Since the 5 GHz band is also used for wireless Mesh backhaul, its radio settings cannot be modified independently while the router operates as a Mesh node. And currently, changing the Mesh node's IP address is not supported.
If you would like to try 160 MHz, you could configure the node's 5 GHz bandwidth before adding it to the Mesh network, then add it to the node.

Thank you for your suggestions. We have noted your feedback and shared it with the relevant team for further evaluation.

Today for the first time (after 9 days), mesh node seems to be offline. Light blink as it was not connected. I don’t have enough free time to control what happens so I just reboot the device, unplugging it from power line.
Can I help you sending some logs?

Another bug or undesirable behavior: when keeping the band configuration as it was set up initially (i.e., 160 MHz on the router and 80 MHz on the mesh node), a mobile device that supports 160 MHz tends to stay connected to the router's 160 MHz network, even when coverage is extremely poor and browsing becomes impossible. It is likely the device itself (a Samsung Galaxy S25 FE) that favors the higher-bandwidth network; however, in practice, this means that in the outer areas of the home, the connection performs poorly or fails completely.
By quickly setting both networks to 80 MHz, the device appears to switch properly from the router to the mesh node, rather than remaining stuck to the router even when it is far away.
At a guess, I’d say that setting both to 160 MHz would likely work as well.
Regardless, this "mixed" configuration seems to be VERY problematic for devices that are moving around.