GL-X3000 Spitz AX - 15 Mbit/s with 5G

Can you confirm that the cellular plan has not only unlimited internet (I’m assuming this means data) but also does NOT have any throttling for hotspot/tethering usage.

The TTL mod is only necessary to hide tethering and avoid any throttling that may be imposed. Note that some of the US carriers have figured out other ways to detect tethering and thus the TTL mod no longer works.

doczenith1,

Germany is pretty flexible with using sim cards in other devices (unlike the US). When I travel to Germany, I’ve used pay as you go lines in an ipad and a cellular router without issues.

Ali should try just setting the apn and leave the remaining fields blank to see how the router connects.

Eric

5g Router is very common in germany and i dont thing that anyone expect normal user to handle tower lock inside the routerinterface to achive 5g :slight_smile:

however in my case:

  • Simcard is 5G combatible. I used same card also in my phone
  • The next 5g Antenna is about 100 Meter (328 ft) away
  • There is no limit from my contract in speed or valuem
  • By the latest german law it is forbidden for carrier to make any difference between cellphone and router. So the provider can not treat reouter different in speed or volume

=> What i did test was to block all LTE bands and achived 25 but still very low compared to my phown with 420

I wonder if you need to clone your phone IMEI number to the X3000. Just guessing here, but it sounds like this may not be needed based on your message.

========Regarding Authenfication / Username / Password =========
German Telekom has only 3 Values that they have in there configuration on there website.
APN: internet.telekom or internet.v6.telekom or internet.home
USER: telekom
PASS: tm

=> internet.v6.telekom you can if you activate IPv6. I tried with IPv6 and this APN but in my case was not working.

=> internet.home is the APN that German Telekom setup in there own 5g Router. I also tried but same speed.

================= regarding the login ===============
i use PAP (suggested by Provider) but i tried without and it still works

================= regarding list commant ===============
i am not sure if i did it correctly. I get an error. Please check

actually in germany it is forbidden by law to treat router different than mobile phones. So provider dont do that (also confirmed that by hotline and by email) however in my case:

  • Simcard is 5G combatible. I used same card also in my phone
  • There is no limit from my contract in speed or volume

To test i downloaded with my phone 3 gig with 420 Mbit/s

I just read some articles about how Germany 5G network works (5g NSA).

As Germany uses Inter-Site Anchoring is it possible that the GL X3000 just connect to the LTE and dont hoockup to the 5g network? anyone familar with this topic?

looks like there are many Problems with Gl X3000 in germany :frowning: just found several older articles.
GL-X3000 Telekom Germany - #19 by SpitzAX3000

My Mobile Phone (Xiaomi Mi 11 Pro) uses Band 3 and Band 20 (NSA). So i tried to open only this two Band in my X-3000 but than it does not connect at all.

============Band Block / open ================
When i allow all 5G NSA Band but nothing else than it also does not connect.

looks like it only connect to LTE Band

5G NSA needs to be registered through LTE first, so you need to select the LTE band as well

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Ali,

I just logged in to my Spitz AX that is in Berlin (through goodcloud). I’m using a German o2 data sim. Here’s the list I see when I run the command at+qmbncfg=“list”:

+QMBNCFG: “List”,0,1,1,“TEF_Spain_Commercial”,0xA010C00,202302071
+QMBNCFG: “List”,1,0,0,“VoLTE-ATT”,0xA010335,202206171
+QMBNCFG: “List”,2,0,0,“FirstNet”,0xA015300,202206171
+QMBNCFG: “List”,3,0,0,“Rogers_Canada”,0xA014800,202303141
+QMBNCFG: “List”,4,0,0,“Bell_Canada”,0xA014700,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,5,0,0,“Telus_Jasper_Canada”,0xA01F900,202304281
+QMBNCFG: “List”,6,0,0,“Telus_Consumer_Canada”,0xA01FA00,202304281
+QMBNCFG: “List”,7,0,0,“Commercial-Sprint”,0xA010204,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,8,0,0,“Commercial-TMO”,0xA01050F,202303091
+QMBNCFG: “List”,9,0,0,“CDMAless_Private-Verizon”,0xA01FD28,202304271
+QMBNCFG: “List”,10,0,0,“CDMAless-Verizon”,0xA010126,202304251
+QMBNCFG: “List”,11,0,0,“Swiss-Comm”,0xA010411,202304261
+QMBNCFG: “List”,12,0,0,“Telia_Sweden”,0xA012400,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,13,0,0,“TIM_Italy_Commercial”,0xA012B00,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,14,0,0,“France-Commercial-Orange”,0xA010B21,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,15,0,0,“Commercial-DT-VOLTE”,0xA011F1F,202212061
+QMBNCFG: “List”,16,0,0,“Germany-VoLTE-Vodafone”,0xA010449,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,17,0,0,“UK-VoLTE-Vodafone”,0xA010426,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,18,0,0,“Commercial-EE”,0xA01220B,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,19,0,0,“Optus_Australia_Commercial”,0xA014400,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,20,0,0,“Telstra_Australia_Commercial”,0xA010F00,202308291
+QMBNCFG: “List”,21,0,0,“Commercial-LGU”,0xA012608,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,22,0,0,“Commercial-KT”,0xA01280B,202308031
+QMBNCFG: “List”,23,0,0,“Commercial-SKT”,0xA01270A,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,24,0,0,“Commercial-Reliance”,0xA011B0C,202210211
+QMBNCFG: “List”,25,0,0,“Commercial-SBM”,0xA011C0B,202111051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,26,0,0,“Commercial-KDDI”,0xA010709,202306131
+QMBNCFG: “List”,27,0,0,“Commercial-DCM”,0xA010D0D,202301051
+QMBNCFG: “List”,28,0,0,“VoLTE-CU”,0xA011561,202204211
+QMBNCFG: “List”,29,0,0,“VoLTE_OPNMKT_CT”,0xA0113E0,202306071
+QMBNCFG: “List”,30,0,0,“Volte_OpenMkt-Commercial-CMCC”,0xA012010,202209221
+QMBNCFG: “List”,31,0,0,“ROW_Commercial”,0xA010809,202306011

OK

It looks like my o2 sim is using the TEF Spain profile? I’m curious which profile Telekom connects to.

Try typing the command at+qmbncfg=“list” in the GUI. If you cut and paste it in to the box, sometimes the quotes aren’t right and you get an error message.

Eric

I do not block or limit any bands. I know it’s not Telekom, but with the o2 data sim I’m on 5g NSA and am connected to LTE band 3 and NR5G-NSA band 78.

Eric

I also got an error when I entered this command on my Spitz AX via a copy and paste. I then deleted the <=“List”> portion of the command and entered it manually and that worked.

@EricG Just saw this. You beat me too it.

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This happens due to differences for the " marks. You typically just need to replace those.

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+qmbncfg: “List”,0,1,1,“Commercial-DT-VOLTE”,0x0A011F1F,202212061
+qmbncfg: “List”,1,0,0,“TEF_Spain_Commercial”,0x0A010C00,202302071
+qmbncfg: “List”,2,0,0,“FirstNet”,0x0A015300,202206171
+qmbncfg: “List”,3,0,0,“Rogers_Canada”,0x0A014800,202303141
+qmbncfg: “List”,4,0,0,“Bell_Canada”,0x0A014700,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,5,0,0,“Telus_Jasper_Canada”,0x0A01F900,202304281
+qmbncfg: “List”,6,0,0,“Telus_Consumer_Canada”,0x0A01FA00,202304281
+qmbncfg: “List”,7,0,0,“Commercial-Sprint”,0x0A010204,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,8,0,0,“Commercial-TMO”,0x0A01050F,202303091
+qmbncfg: “List”,9,0,0,“VoLTE-ATT”,0x0A010335,202206171
+qmbncfg: “List”,10,0,0,“CDMAless_Private-Verizon”,0x0A01FD28,202304271
+qmbncfg: “List”,11,0,0,“CDMAless-Verizon”,0x0A010126,202304251
+qmbncfg: “List”,12,0,0,“Swiss-Comm”,0x0A010411,202304261
+qmbncfg: “List”,13,0,0,“Telia_Sweden”,0x0A012400,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,14,0,0,“TIM_Italy_Commercial”,0x0A012B00,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,15,0,0,“France-Commercial-Orange”,0x0A010B21,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,16,0,0,“Germany-VoLTE-Vodafone”,0x0A010449,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,17,0,0,“UK-VoLTE-Vodafone”,0x0A010426,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,18,0,0,“Commercial-EE”,0x0A01220B,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,19,0,0,“Optus_Australia_Commercial”,0x0A014400,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,20,0,0,“Telstra_Australia_Commercial”,0x0A010F00,202304251
+qmbncfg: “List”,21,0,0,“Commercial-LGU”,0x0A012608,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,22,0,0,“Commercial-KT”,0x0A01280B,202306271
+qmbncfg: “List”,23,0,0,“Commercial-SKT”,0x0A01270A,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,24,0,0,“Commercial-Reliance”,0x0A011B0C,202210211
+qmbncfg: “List”,25,0,0,“Commercial-SBM”,0x0A011C0B,202111051
+qmbncfg: “List”,26,0,0,“Commercial-KDDI”,0x0A010709,202306131
+qmbncfg: “List”,27,0,0,“Commercial-DCM”,0x0A010D0D,202301051
+qmbncfg: “List”,28,0,0,“VoLTE-CU”,0x0A011561,202204211
+qmbncfg: “List”,29,0,0,“VoLTE_OPNMKT_CT”,0x0A0113E0,202306071
+qmbncfg: “List”,30,0,0,“Volte_OpenMkt-Commercial-CMCC”,0x0A012010,202209221
+qmbncfg: “List”,31,0,0,“ROW_Commercial”,0x0A010809,202306011

OK

Ok as far as i understood it is normal that my X3000 connect to LTE Band 3 as it needs that to connect to 5G NSA band. so far so good…

so how to make it connect to the 5G NSA Band…

I have sort of the same issue with Verizon in the states. To ensure the 5G NSA connection, I had to band lock the LTE band and the 5G NSA band.
In my case it is LTE 66 and 5G NSA n5.
I did a field test mode on my iPhone to see what bands it was using for LTE & 5G.
Maybe you can do something similar and lock LTE band 3 and whatever band you need for 5G NSA and see how it goes.

in my case i open only the 3 main Band for LTE (3,7,20) and leave all 5g NSA open.
So it can connect LTE and than use all kind of NSA Band. Did you mean like this?

The X3000 connect to the LTE Band but it does not go further and connect to the NSA Band. any way to force that?

Ali,

I wonder if it’s the mbn profile for Telekom that is preventing 5g NSA connection? Maybe try the ROW_Commercial mbn profile (it’s the last one in your list). You might try the following but use the ROW_Commercial mbn profile:

This is from the above link but modified for the ROW_Commercial mbn profile:

(1) It appears that the “autoselect” MBB in the modem picked COMMERCIAL-Tmobile, which would be normally ok. BUT I seemed to remember something about selecting a generic profile in the modem.

I listed the profiles here:

AT+QMBNCFG="list"

And found a “generic looking” profile as: "ROW_Commercial",0xA010809,202306011

(2) Used the following AT command strings.

Turned off auto select and deactivate with

AT+QMBNCFG="AutoSel",0

And then entered:

AT+QMBNCFG="Deactivate"

Then selected the proper “generic” modem

AT+QMBNCFG="Select", "ROW_Commercial"

Checked to be sure the profile is selected:

AT+QMBNCFG="list"

You should see the ROW_Commercial entry at the top of the list now.

Then REBOOT.

MAKE SURE YOU TYPE IN THE AT COMMANDS. DO NOT COPY AND PASTE!!!

If changing to the ROW_Commercial mbn profile does not work, you can switch back to auto select by doing the following command:

AT+QMBNCFG="AutoSel",1

10000x Thx man… this totaly helped me out :slight_smile:
I did it exactly like you described from the other post and it worked now :smiley:

I got now something about 240 Mbit/s with the router and 380-420 with my Mobile phone (Xiaomi mi 11 Pro). Only thing that would be interesting to know is why my Phone still has better connection even it has no extra antenna and is very compact.

@Gl inet Team:

  1. TTL is not needed in Germany. By german law it is not allowed for provider to tread Router different than phones
  2. APN Pass and Username is not needed for German Telekom (This is the APN: internet.telekom or internet.v6.telekom)
  3. The Profile that need to be used for Germany if you want 5G connection is “ROW_Commercial”

=> Would be great if we have that new information handled in future firmware. It will for sure reduce the support mails and contacts but also return and refunds :slight_smile:

Also just Purchased a 2nd one!

I’m receive, thank you

I start setup my 2nd X3000 and just did the latest update (4.4.8) and it imidiatly start connecting with 5G NSA (which my old one with old firmware had problems with).
But the Connection is only 90 Mbit/s even it has same Simcard as my other Device with 250 mbit/s.
I also change the Profile to “ROW_Commercial”

The only difference is the modemfirmware.

@gl.inet Team: Is it possible to integrate modemfirmware into normal Firmware upgrade? It is very hard for me and i strugle hard to do the SSH update (even i consider myself mid-range user) :slight_smile:
It will enhance the customer satisfaction if possible