VLAN management and client support in stock GUI (Flint 2)

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@xize11

You made it appear to me of making OpenWrt look easier to configurate than pfsense, like OpenWrt is purely soho.

No; I think we're both 'at loggerheads' that the GL GUI, being the abstraction layer it is, is a a problem because of all the underlying scripts GL packs onto OWRT to make the GL GUI so 'pretty.' Unless things have drastically changed UBNT used to build their CPEs & APs on OWRT. I would certainly call that an endorsement for 'enterprise ready.'

@xize11

Unless I misunderstood, but don't agree with that, they share the same difficulty in configurating, the gl ui would in fact make it easier.

I don't consider OWRT as simply SOHO but yes, I'll agree to that thought: OWRT is easier to configure than pfSense. uci is a helluva lot easier to script using its batch mode using POSIX tooling than purely relying on bash but YMMV. For embedded devices I also call bash bloat.

@xize11

And yet I don't fully agree, sure on some of this, but at the beginning it worked?

Sure; at the launch. My Certa was only only one release behind Upstream (21.02) when I purchased it IIRC but OWRT is now @ 24.0.2 but the perfectly usable Certa is now unsupported by GL.iNet. Why would you buy such a stale platform that is the end of life (EOL)/unsupported 18.06? There's no upgrade path. Superficially speaking it's just more e-waste/landfill like the Opal until SiFlower (hopefully) makes it into mainline OWRT.

@xize11

About the sdks I agree, that is something what is not helping a tinkerer, and would be a buy issue for me.

Again agreed. I'll never buy another Qualcomm device regardless of the ODM.

@xize11

I think things became much worse when they started selling to amazon, and a new audience joined with much higher expectations and the extreme soho things I ment with a locked router and less being openwrt, before then developers where much freely talkative on the forums, things have been extremely shifted, and I mean I don't give them wrong, I would prob doing the same, but that surely plays too.

I think we agree more than we don't.

@xize11

I think we have different views on what soho is but we basically mean the same on OpenWrt.

I think more 'cafe owner' but SOHO is typically defined as <20 employees. It's unlikely they'd have any staff on hand to set up something like EdgeOS or Active Directory up; they'd probably end up getting someone from BestBuy's GeekSquad if anyone at all.

I really don't think they're going to care about pps or what 'VLAN' stands for. Hell, to be less than charitable I don't think many of them know or even care Wi-Fi != Internet.

@xize11

I mistook your messages as someone who wanted only a locked down router with a limited ui, but if it goes about OpenWrt we mean the same thing.

I try to make a distinction between pure OWRT & this pseudo-OWRT from GL.iNet:

Flint 2 4.7.7 to 4.8.2 broken

If you're running a homelab IDK why you wouldn't just dump the GL firmware & flash pure. Eat any downgrade in performance in exchange for full flexibity instead of the pseudo-OpenWrt & stale repo, kernel GL builds on. You already know wired is always going to outperform Wi-Fi. Their firmware is a hindrance to someone like you. Drop the Argon theme on it if you don't like stock LuCI. The GL GUI only makes sense for SOHO & travel users.