Flint 3 (GL-BE9300) Firmware

The Flint 3 is now selling. From testing, there are definitely some well communicated firmware needs (IPv6 implementation of tunneling protocols and interoperability with VPN). Some compilation tweaks provided by Beta testers will also improve performance.

What is the Flint 3 roadmap for firmware and how can we help you test new firmware to make Flint 3 a success?

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Hello,

Thank you for your attention and love for BE9300.

Currently BE9300 firmware is shipped on v4.7.11.

In the future, it will be upgraded to v4.8.0 firmware to support IPv6-based VPN server, and more VPN functions, such as interoperability.
Currently, the VPN client supported IPv6.

As the v4.8.0 VPN dashboard page has been greatly changed, for the interoperability, v4.8 has not been finalized, the page may be optimized to make the function display more intuitive and easier to use.

When v4.8 is released to the official stable version, we will adapt to the v4.8.0 firmware of BE9300 as soon as possible.

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I wondered what firmware was loaded onto the Flint 3. Seems 4.8 is way behind schedule at the moment.

For Beta testers, as no firmware is posted how can we download the latest for a manual flash?

Hello,

I got that.

The BE9300 is released and pushing the v4.7.11 firmware just recently. Please login the GL GUI to check.

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My Flint 3 is not having the latest 4.7.11 firmware. Where can I download this version?

Hello,

After connecting the router to the Internet, please wait for a while and it will receive a web pop up for the new firmware.

If no, you can manually install the firmware:

I think it will be synchronized to the GL firmware center, but it may take a while.

We need 4.8 love the vpn page on my flint 2.

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I didn't get a popup. I installed the firmware manually from the wetransfer download, and with this version adding the WireGuard config from Torguard works. Thank you, @bruce

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hello, this 4.7.13 is a beta or stable firmware?
on the download center I see 4.7.11.

this flint 3 has a very weak wifi coverage compared to flint 2 :pensive_face:

The wifi coverage of this device is at the level of some cheapest no-name router.
The same internet, location, cable etc. and

  • Filnt 2: 600 mbps
  • Flint 3: ~150 mbps (MAX, mostly 50-100 mbps)

When buying the successor I expected a better device than its predecessor, not worse.
This is a tragedy, I don't see the point of using this device.

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About the WiFi performance, please contact us [email protected], our technical support will provide some methods to check this.

Very surprised. I was part of the beta testing, and I tested this router over all 3 bands and the Flint 3 signal strength (as measured in dBm) was slightly better than Flint 2. Due to the 320 MHz channel width on the 6 GHz band, the connection speeds especially on that band are unbelievable (like 5.7 Gbps from memory). The signal strength of the 6 GHz band on the Flint 3 is way better than any other brand of router I have. Of course, Flint 2 does not have the 6 GHz band.

As most all devices are 1 or 2 streams, there was no difference in throughput between Flint 3 and Flint 2, even though Flint 3 is only 2x2 while Flint 2 is 4x4. Multi-Link Operation (MLO) does not seem to be stable on any brand of router I have, so I would not recommend MLO.

I was an early bird for Flint 2. The MediaTek WIFI drivers were not stable for pretty much 1 year. I think Qualcomm for Flint 3 is actually ahead of where MediaTek was at the release of the Flint 2 router.

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Dondi, did you test flint 2 and 3 together?

Slightly better the flint 3? it has half wifi coverage compared to flint 2.

Don't spread bs please, flint 3 is a brutal downgrade.

And with this low quality device MLO and 6ghz are useless.

Flint 2 is 4x4 wifi and this 3 is only 2x2.
Flint 2 has 8 FEM amplifier for wifi, the specs of flint 3 are unknown.

Flint 2 is way better, be honest please.

Me too was an early bird for the flint 2 and it was better, even with the initial firmware.

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bruce the email support what can do if the hardware is not powerful enough?
some snapshot nightly firmware with increased dBm?

at this point I hope in a future Flint 4, made with the real GLiNet passion and expertise, like the Flint 2 (and without crapcomm soc) :wink:

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Yes, I have both a Flint 2 and Flint 3. I am not looking at WIFI strength bars, the signal strength was measured in dBm. When you actually measure the signal strength in dBm, Flint 3 looks quite good. The country code of course impacts that and 6 GHz is not available at all in parts of the world. If you read what I wrote, MLO is terrible in most all brands including the Asus routers that I own.

I was one of the first to get a Flint 2, like you. So yes I know first hand how unstable the MediaTek WIFI drivers were when it was released. I think Flint 3 has a lot more stable WIFI at product release than Flint 2 had. Yes, Flint 2 is very stable now (both opensource and closed source drivers). And a number of releases, including vanilla OpenWRT, run great on Flint 2.

Many users are upset about 2x2 vs 4x4 but most of us don't have any devices that are more than 2x2. So what exactly is the complaint?

Flint 3 has a better switch as all ports (WAN and LAN) are 2.5 Gbps.

Everyone seems upset about having a Qualcomm chipset, but without any real reason why. And no need to accuse someone of BS because they have a different perspective. Please look at the product brief from Qualcomm on this chipset as Qualcomm claims to provide opensource support for OpenWRT. Will they actually do that, who knows.

Take care.

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Probably my main complaint about Flint 3 is the slow speed of firmware updates. This is the flagship product for GL,iNet, IMHO they should be providing firmware releases monthly, for the 1st year, with Beta firmware updates every 2 weeks,

@bruce Is there any plan to release a Flint 3 firmware with OpenWrt 24 and kernel 6.6 in the near future? What is the limiting factor here (i.e. is GL.iNet waiting for an op24 based QSDK, or just internal timeline)? I do see mentioning of op24 in the QSDK repo, but not sure if I'm looking at the right thing: wiki-qsdk | CodeLinaro Wiki.

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wait for the op community or Qualcomm adapt and submit to vanilla openwrt.

Not sure what community hosting this branch and how about the stable situation.

And switching to the op version, the GL SDK testing task was also heavy.

That's your idea, okay but IMHO it's not true.
Flint 3 cover like my crap is router, and the signal strength/dBm/bar are absent in some room of my home when the Flint 2 cover without problem.

Maybe you don't have a 4x4 equipments but this implicate a wifi with more bandwidth for more devices. Thats a downgrade.

Look the GLiNet staff.
Me and @karafka have sent some message with complain for this product and we are super early bird supporters. We didn't receive ANY REPLY in this forum only a "send email".
I know it's uncomfortable receive complaints but you can't ignore your customers.

For the firmware part they are quite slow because they have to support a large number of products IMHO.

regards.