Time period for WPA3. Better WPA3 beta, than 14 years old and broken PWA2

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  • What are the time frame for offering WPA3 support ?

  • Its looks for me it will be better to support a WPA3 Beta, than to support longer 14 years old and broken PWA2.

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It is already supported by the hostap code base, which provides hostapd (AP) and wpa_supplicant (STA and 802.11s mesh). The upstream OpenWrt group is still sorting out some of the interoperability issues (iPhones, for example).

I am not a GL.iNet staff member, so I can’t comment on when those changes might be adopted to the GL.iNet code base. I would guess that it will be sometime after OpenWrt releases 19.07, or perhaps 20.01.

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Yeah as soon as 19.07 lands there should be a GL update shortly after.

GL has been testing the master branch extensively to avoid any surprises and it has worked good.

But as stated in other threads, GL wants to only build on the release versions for the userbase, so we just have to wait for that :slight_smile:

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It can be, the 19.07 update are a goot time to replace the unsecure and broken (MD5?) firmware update validation check, by a little bit more secure hash like SHA-256. That will protect the firmware update process against manipulation on transmission channel.

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WPA2 has not been marked as unsecure yet, so there is no need to panic.

The OpenWRT team have been fixing bugs with 19.07 still, so it would be worse for the end user to update to that prematurely.

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older iphones that are not supported by newer IOS releases. it’s not just iphones, but a lot of wpa/wpa2 compliant devices.

And yes, there are issues with the transition code from upstream.

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What??

Two different issues, and even there - the current MD5 is probably ok - would be nice to get to sha256 for firmware signing, but I fail to see how this is related to WPA3

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Great news: OpenWrt 19.07.0 stable release:

“History
10 Jan 2020 - Final v19.07.0 images available
6 Jan 2020 - The v19.07.0 tag has been created.
2 Dec 2019 - Release v19.07.0-rc2 test images available
30 Nov 2019 - The v19.07.0-rc2 tag has been created.
8 Nov 2019 - Release v19.07.0-rc1 test images available
6 Nov 2019 - The v19.07.0-rc1 tag has been created.
17 Mar 2019 - The openwrt-19.07 branch has been created.”
Source: [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt 19.07

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I hope GLI will include wireless fast transition in their GUI with future firmware based on openwrt 19.

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It can be IEEE 802.11r-2008 need a little bit more actual wifi card on pc side too, like:

  • more modern than intel 7260 WiFi 5 card
  • par example at minimum a Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 wifi card.

See the follow intel data sheet:

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On the latest iteration of openwrt fast transition works flawlessly even on rudimentary devices.

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1907 is under testing in our models.

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Depends on the client card, drivers, and the supplicant - can actually work with older chipsets for 11r, depends on the items above, and of course the AP’s and the back-end distribution system for multiple AP’s, or even in a dual-band AP with two (or more…) radios.

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OpenWrt 19.07.1 - First Service Release - 31 January 2020 is now available:

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Is a big innovation of the actual openwrt firmware, which offers laymen information about the security level of the offered WLAN modes by appropriate labels.

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Great news: Chinese new year is over, OpenWrt 19.07.0 stable release:

“History
10 Jan 2020 - Final v19.07.0 images available
6 Jan 2020 - The v19.07.0 tag has been created.
2 Dec 2019 - Release v19.07.0-rc2 test images available
30 Nov 2019 - The v19.07.0-rc2 tag has been created.
8 Nov 2019 - Release v19.07.0-rc1 test images available
6 Nov 2019 - The v19.07.0-rc1 tag has been created.
17 Mar 2019 - The openwrt-19.07 branch has been created.”
Source: [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt 19.07 3

What the status of that bei gl ?
I need to buy a hand of new routers for projects …

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The first firmware using 1907 will try WPA3. Hope to give you more specified new later.

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Thats sounds interesting. I have just installed the openwrt-ar750-3.103-0302 snapshotversion for testing purposes. This seems to me to be still based on the 18.06. Thats mean i have to wait a little bit more.

Now I have seen, the OpenWrt 19.07.2 - Service Release is out on 6 March 2020:

It can be “try WPA3” will be:

  • a good default for owner and guest wifi
  • with the possibility to set to WPA3 only at minimum for owner wifi, for owners which stopped using non wpa3 devices.
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Alzo wrote 2020-03-09:
“The first firmware using 1907 will try WPA3. Hope to give you more specified new later.”

My Answer:
For some customers are, improving safety from Good to Excellent is an important argument for their purchase decision.

Is there already an approximate timetable for WPA3 support by gli devices ?

THX
Regards from Easter Bunny

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We are testing testing. It is slow.

But we will update the timetable this month.